Interview with Andy Young Of Knifed, Sick Old Man and Cervix
Please introduce yourself and a quick background?
My Chinese birth-name is Young Hung Lin (born August 1979) but I've never gone by that name at all. My full English name is Andy Robin Young and supposedly my oldest sister Rosemary named me after "Andy" Gibb who was the younger brother of the "Bee Gees" group. Born and raised in Levin (New Zealand), I'm the youngest of 5 kids and the only one who got into music in a life-changing way (my parents are still waiting for me to snap out of it and grow up!).
Earliest Musical Memories that you can remember while growing up?
1984-1985: A-ha's "Take On Me" music video captivated me when I was 5. I remember one day I was running around the house with a fly-swat in my hands air-guitaring to that song. (Pretty sure I remember having to wash my hands afterwards as there was fly-entrails all over the fly-swat from previous use by my mum).
1993: My high-school friend Andrew Janmaat had Suicidal Tendencies "Still Cyco After All These Years" album on at his house all the time when we would go there for lunch (during school days) as it was close to Horowhenua College.
I still love and cherish that ALBUM!!! (I had no idea what Punk-Rock/Hardcore Punk/Heavy Metal music was at the time).
How did you get into music in a big way? Was there a life-changing moment in your life when music REALLY grabbed a hold of you?
Music was never a part of my life until I started attending Horowhenua College in 1993. I was quite the nerdy academic child until about 14 when I discovered the guitar at high school. I accidentally got into guitar and music by failing this basic guitar exam which was simply playing basic guitar chords "A-Major to E-Major to A-Major To D-Major to A-Major” again. This WAS the life-changing moment for me as I had NEVER failed anything academically before. I was SO upset that I remember biking home as fast as I could that day and demanded my parents obtain me a guitar so I could practice and overcome this embarrassing situation. Luckily my dad owned a nylon-acoustic guitar and it was stored in grandad’s old room. I ran into the room and it was hanging up on the wall with years and years of dust and cobwebs all over it (no strings on it). For some reason there was this annoying rattling sound inside the guitar. It turns out that spiders had gotten inside, spun webs all around, and then rats had defecated inside the sound hole. The rat faeces had hardened over the years and those rat droppings got suspended in the spider-webs! Fvcking gross!!!
I got a set of nylon strings put onto the guitar from what used to be Clarke's Sound Centre (Now "Kings Sound Centre”) in Levin. Thus, my musical journey really started. (Discovering the guitar changed my life!!!). I played nylon-string guitar throughout the rest of 1993 to mid-1994 before obtaining my first electric guitar setup (a Red Coloured Samick Electric guitar and amp) in mid-late 1994 also from Kings Sound Centre.
I remember obtaining a Boss HM3 Distortion Pedal not long after so I could get the guitar sound of all the bands that I would eventually get into throughout high school.
Ok. So, what bands and genres did you get into in high school and onwards?
With my guitar playing journey I got into grunge/alternative music as that was what was popular at the time on radio and also what my high school peers were listening to. Bands like Nirvana, Smashing Pumpkins, Soundgarden, Stone Temple Pilots, to name a few.
One day in early 1995 I walked into BATS MUSIC STORE (Levin) and randomly choose a CD/album to listen to since it had a blue picture on the cover of a drill going into a skull. I pressed play and heard the most gnarliest guitar tone rip my head off.
It was Pantera's "Far Beyond Driven" album and THAT ALBUM CHANGED MY LIFE!!! I became obsessed with trying to play Pantera’s music and tried to get my hands on tablature books to learn how to play their music!
While this was going down in 1995: At Horowhenua College was where I met my friend Paul Braddock (we're still friends to this day!). Him and his older brother Damon turned me onto all this cool heavy music like Sepultura, more Pantera!!, Machine Head, and even more Suicidal Tendencies!
Basically, the Braddock brothers had all the killer ROADRUNNER (label) bands that also included BIOHAZARD who're still one of my favourite bands today ("Urban Discipline" and "State of the World Address" are still favourite albums of mine). They played me loads of metal and punk CDs which was great as they all had awesome guitar playing. I learnt/evolved my guitar craft (speed-picking, riffing, and power-chord abilities) from trying to play all the music by Sepultura, Metallica, Pantera, Slayer, Testament, Acid Bath, Fear Factory, Biohazard, etc.
At this stage in life, I'm pretty much a High School Metal-Head (still am) and got into genres like Death Metal, Thrash/Speed Metal, and some Black Metal. All these bands influenced and shaped the way I play guitar to this day.
[Note: I did see Rancid live at the 1996 Big Day Out as “OUT COME THE WOLVES” was a favourite album of mine in High School].
When did you start playing drums in Punk-Rock/Hardcore Punk bands?
I decided in 2000 that I wanted to give drums a go as it was always fun to jump on drums and play some beats when I got the chance to. I actually hired a piece of shit MAXTONE drum set from Kings Sound Centre for 6 months to see if I would stick at it or if it was just a phase. Turns out I REALLY LOVE PLAYING DRUMS.
That same year I won a heap of money on Lotto so I spent the money on a semi-decent drum set! (Pearl Export kit and hardware, Sabian B8 Cymbal pack, and DW 5000 Series Double-Pedal). (Note: I wanted to play double-kick ASAP due to listening loads of metal since 1995).
I also used the Lotto-money to pay for a semester at Massey University (Wellington) in 2001 to go do a "Foundation Course in Jazz Performance on Drums." I became a massive jazz music fan at that time as well! [Note: I could go on about jazz music as much as I can about Heavy Metal and Punk-Rock/Hardcore punk music but probably not for this interview!].
Over the course of my musical journey/life I've actually played WAY more shows as a Hardcore-Punk drummer than as a guitar player as there's NEVER enough drummers in any music scene in any town or city in New Zealand. If you play drums, it's SO much easier to get into a band or start a band. Playing drums has definitely made me a better musician overall. It helped my guitar playing and song writing immensely in all sorts of ways.
Who are some of your Punk-Rock/Hardcore Punk drumming influences and/or favourite Punk-Rock/Hardcore Punk drummers?
International Drummers:
Brooks Wackerman (Suicidal Tendencies, Infectious Grooves, Bad Religion, Vandals). [Note: I cried when he left to join Avenged Sevenfold (I won't say any more about that band).
Josh Freese (Vandals)
Chris Maggio (Coliseum)
Ben Koller (Converge, All Pigs Must Die)
Byron McMackin (Pennywise)
NZHC Drummers:
Dan Fraser (Shortlived, SCAB, Forced Starvation)
James Watson (Brubeck)
Jason Gascoigne (Deadline, Strangers, Shortlived (With Dan Fraser swapping over to vocals), Gravel Pit, Standover)
Jay Dougrey (Sommerset)
Mark Hill (Sticky Filth)
Matt "King" George Clarke (Evil Priest! Bleeders and loads of legendary NZHC bands).
Brogan May (Shitripper, Graves, Bridge Burner, Hackjob, Exit Fear).
What bands have you played in over the years?
1997: "Hardcore C_nts" (un-official band name) was my first band/high school metal band with Paul Braddock, Mark Young, and Grant Hanson. We just played an Acid Bath cover song ("13 Fingers") at the Horowhenua College Talent Quest 1997 (we didn't win unfortunately).
I have a VHS tape of that performance I should get digitized and uploaded to my YouTube Channel at some point! I actually ended up playing bass at that Talent Quest as both Paul and Mark were also guitar players and someone had to play bass.
2003-2012 (Palmerston North-Era): The Nana Squad, Frontal Oscarz, El Cheapo, Gaylordz, Overlords of Hell, Sports Violence, The Bali Bombers, Cervix, Cephalopod, Discorpse, Obscenity.
2013 = Gap Year. I decided to take a year off from playing in bands as I relocated to Auckland (from Palmerston North) for work purposes.
2014-2023 (Auckland-Era): Sick Old Man, Hard Target LTD, Disguy, KNIFED.
So, Punk-Rock/Hardcore Punk wasn't technically your first (genre) musical love. When did you actually get into to Punk-Rock/Hardcore Punk/NZHC?
In mid-2002 I had finished doing a semester of Classical Composition at Wellington University. I was just trying it out to see if I'd like it but never went back to finish the year off (or the degree). End of 2002 I joined a Palmerston North punk band called Nana Squad as they needed a guitarist to play some shows (their guitarist Dougal had left the band for some reason).
Nana Squad ended up opening for (Wellington Punk Rockers) Brubeck at both (2003) University Orientation shows at Victoria University (Wellington) and Massey University (Palmerston North). Brubeck was a fvcking AMAZING band and James Watson I still regard as one of NZ’s top Punk Rock drummers ever. Paul Tansley and the rest of the band were great musos! Brubeck's "Myoclonic Twitch" album is one of my favourite NZ Punk Rock albums along with Sommerset's "Fast Cars Slow Guitars" album. [Sommerset are another great NZ (melodic) Hardcore Punk band that people should know about if they don't already!].
It was at this time that I investigated local, national and international bands in the Punk/Hardcore Punk/NZHC scene. I discovered all the Fat Wreck Chords bands like NOFX, Pennywise, Strung Out(!), the list goes on and on.
[Note: When I joined Nana Squad, I was having such a great time that I simply moved from Wellington to Palmerston North end of 2002/beginning of 2003. I thought I'd never live in P.N. in a million years].
Tell us about Nana Squad, the P.N.H.C. scene/era that you were a part of. Besides the bands you played in, what other bands were around at the time?
In order to explain the PNHC-era that I was a part of (between 2003-2012) it'll probably be better to split it into three eras as there were about (3x) D.I.Y. flats/venues and a few legit venues around that contributed to the scene being really active when I was there.
Era 1 (Circa 2002-2003): "85 Broadway Avenue"
Was actually a (former) dance-studio that got rented out to my mate Jez (Nana Squad vocalist). Jez hosted loads of Punk Rock shows there and that was when NZ Pop-Punk was at its peak. I had to listen to so much Punk-Rock/Hardcore Punk to get me in the mentality of playing that kind of music.
Bands that I remember playing/coming to play in P.N. during Era 1:
Brubeck, The Minimals, We Dunno, Fifth Threat, OneBadWeekend, Atom And His Package (U.S.A.), The Rod Johnson experience, Losing Facing, Lo-standard, Clowndog, Can't Reach, Skinflint, Cheap for A Reason.
(There were WAY more bands that played that I haven't listed/can't remember).
Era 2 (circa 2003-2005): "Enemy Dojo" is the same place as "85 Broadway Ave" but my mates Jamaine Kiddie, James Dilks, and Ben Topping ended up taking over the rental-property and remaining it ENEMY DOJO.
Bands that I remember playing/coming to play in P.N. during Era 2:
The Deadline, Tried for Treason, Bruce Campbell Holocaust, Shumway, Bonus Donor, Horror Story, The Makos, Black Chrome, Wall of Silents, Foisemaster (R.I.P. Ross Harkness!!!), Cathedra.
(Again: There were WAY more bands that played that I haven't listed/can't remember. Sorry!).
During this era, I started attending PUNK FEST at Wellington Car Club. Super fun times and wish Punk Fest was still happening in Wellington. People should check out John Lake's documentation of the Wellington Punk Scene. It's called UP THE PUNKS. People can find it online. For me: The Wellington scene has one of the most vibrant Punk-Rock
scenes in the country. Some AMAZING bands have come out of that scene and still do.
Era 3 (Circa 2009-2012): "The Factory" (Basically the era where I got involved with organizing shows in P.N.):
Richard Naylor and Hugh Jenkins (who I played with in a band called Cervix) were living in and putting on shows at this space/flat that was formerly PRYDE Recording Studio (located on Broadway Avenue that was actually not that far away from "Enemy Dojo"). They called it "THE FACTORY".
It was this stage in my life that I REALLY started learning/applying the Punk Rock "DIY" mentality on how to organize and put on Punk/Hardcore/Metal shows. I used The Factory as the venue I would books shows at and I got PRETTY good at booking shows there. We were having shows there almost every other weekend it seems.
I got my visually-artistic friends involved in the scene by asking them to create gig-posters (usually for free!) that I would get printed on A3 and plaster around the whole P.N. CBD. I would book my friends bands to play if I thought that they were an appropriate fit. The list of bands list played at the Factory is too many to name but there's footage on my YouTube Channel for people to check out (https://www.youtube.com/user/younghunglin/videos).
Other guys in the scene that were also booking shows at The Factory included Murray Shaw from the SLAVE COLLECTIVE and Olly Martin (Ricky Bobby vocalist/ODR Productions). I'm proud to say that at one point in time Palmerston North had one of the most thriving and active music scenes in the country.
[I should note that it's about this same time that (PNHC) Metallic-Hardcore band RICKY BOBBY was on the scene. They were a really important and pivotal band in P.N.H.C. as they represented the new generation of kids starting bands and playing shows to their friends and peers. Olly Martin (RB Vocalist) and Luke (RB guitarist) were regularly booking Hardcore shows that were hosted at Luke's (parent’s) garage and they named it the FISH-HOUSE].
Actually, my band Cervix (with Mitch Collis who now does bass and vocals for STRESS GHETTO) played their first show at the Fish-House in 2009 (footage can be seen on my YouTube Channel). That gig I remember fondly as that night noise-control got called so the show (after Cervix had finished playing) had to be moved very quickly to someone's flat closer to P.N. CBD. SHITRIPPER came down from Auckland and played in the kitchen of that relocated show and they were KILLER! (That's when I got hip to my mate Brogan May's drumming!).
Olly (Ricky Bobby vocalist) actually started ODR Productions around this era with a guy called David Stevens (I played with David in a band called SPORTS VIOLENCE along with Mitch Collis and Martin Boddy). ODR ended up putting on shows at this place called the BAD CAVE which was the space above the BAD CAVE comic book store on Broadway Avenue.
Hardcore and metal bands that played the BAD CAVE included: Saving Grace, Depths, Antagonist A.D., Regime, Declaration A.D., Ricky Bobby, Rise From The Shadows, Reality Check, and Death Grip (footage can be found on my YouTube Channel!).
Olly eventually relocated to Auckland (when Ricky Bobby called it a day in 2012) and continued ODR Productions himself. He went on to organize WEST FEST (festival) in Auckland along with Scott Penk. The international bands ODR Productions managed to get to New Zealand is simply stunning (just search for West Fest Auckland on YouTube and you’ll see the bands I'm referring to).
Other venues in P.N. that need to be mentioned:
THE STOMACH: Hosted loads of cool ALL AGES shows during my time in P.N. (They still do).
THE ROYAL: Was the P.N. local bar/venue that hosted loads of NZ Punk-Rock/Hardcore Punk/Heavy Metal while I was there. So many fonds memories of seeing bands there (local/national/international).
Loads of great memories at both these venues!!! I could go on and on about all the shows that happened at the ROYAL.
[2013: I relocated to Auckland to start working at the Auckland Drumshop and start a new chapter in my life. I'm still here doing my thing: attending shows and playing in bands].
I look upon those years in Palmerston North as some of my favourite times in my life. I've met SO many people in that scene and other scenes from around the country. Its importance to my life is incalculable. I don't give a fuck what people say about Palmerston North. Like any place, you have to make things happen yourself if things aren't happening.
What motivated you to start filming bands in the P.N. Music Scene? Describe your YouTube channel. How did this come about?
Back in 2009/2010 my older brother Colin just gave me his Panasonic Handycam (Digital Cassette Tape format!) and a tripod as he was simply not using it anymore. I hadn't planned on filming bands at all at that point. I usually just set it up when my bands played at The Royal so I could film and watch later to critique my drumming performances in all the bands I was playing in. You can record for quite a while on Digital Cassette Tape so I simply left the Handycam filming and was able to capture footage of all the other bands. Since I enjoy and go to so many shows I decided to actively video-document was what happening in my music scene and decided to upload to my YouTube channel (that I created for fun back in 2007). Over the last (almost) 10 years I've filmed and uploaded hundreds and hundreds of videos of local and national bands in the punk-rock, hardcore-punk and heavy-metal genres. I don't really bother with filming/documenting international bands as that's not what my YouTube channel is focused on. I'm about preserving and visually documenting the local and national scene so that we all have something to look back upon for history’s sake. Bands (who I film) and punters/fans from around the country (and world) have contacted me saying that they really appreciate the footage I take and that I'm doing the scene a massive service by documenting what goes on in this country of ours musically. I have no plans to stop filming/documenting as I have no plans to stop attending gigs/concerts.
Favourite Footage from your YouTube Channel?
"Pissed Off Bastards" at Wastefest (Valhalla) played one of the most hilarious and "WTF" sets I've ever filmed. You had to have been there to get the reference/context.
Bog Standard Shit Cvnts at Wastefest.
Ulcerate at NAPIER DEATH METAL FESTIVAL (The Cabana).
The most packed/attended shows where people were going apeshit are probably the following:
Cervix (Last Show Ever)
Antagonist A.D. at the Bad Cave
Ricky Bobby Last show ever at the Bad Cave.
8 Foot Sativa at The Royal
Razorwyre at San Francisco Bath House
What's your thoughts on the current (underground) NZ music scene and who are some bands we should look out for?
I think the overall underground music scene in New Zealand is in a healthy state and getting better (it can always be better). Pandemic didn't help, but things seem to be on the upswing which is promising for NZ underground music.
Personal (current) favourite bands in NZ that I reckon people should check out are: Forced Starvation, Putrid Future, Rvkkvs, Drop Off Point! Brawler! Eolithic Relapse, Ulcerate, Soul Void, Grave Axis, Carnal, Skull Patrol, Slum Bug, No Brainers.
If you want to see what current bands are active in NZ at the moment: I'm helping my former (Sick Old Man/Disguy) bandmate Cyprian put on Full Noise 2023 at Grey Lynn Library Hall (Auckland, NZ) on Easter Weekend (April 7th and 8th 2023). It's an ALL AGES show which is going to be AWESOME for the "18 and Under" crowd who can't get into pubs/venues to see bands. Bands scheduled/confirmed to play (at the time of this interview) are:
Blood Stained Eyes, Hackjob, Forced Starvation, Cutie Cooties, Cuck, RVKKVS, xCONTORTx, Skull Patrol, Carthage, Dolebludger, Shotgun the Couch, KNIFED!, Radium, Standover, Gravel Pit, Spiteful Urinator, Mandate, And Soul Void.
Tell us about your current/main band KNIFED.
KNIFED is my current band and we're a 3-piece grindcore band. Me and Mark Hill (ex-'Hooked on Christ' drummer from the UK) started the project during the pandemic in 2020 and, because of covid, it was easily the longest gestating musical-project/band I've ever been in. Prior to the 2020 Pandemic: Mark was playing drums in BULK BOGAN (AKLD power violence band) along with our mutual friend Fluffy. Fluffy (Bulk Bogan guitarist/vocalist) is an extremely busy sound-engineer and couldn't commit to regular Bulk Bogan rehearsals/shows (as far as I understand the situation at the time). Mark wanted to play drums/jam in a band more regularly so he hit me up about jamming as he'd (probably) seen me play guitar in Sick Old Man. Me and Mark agreed to start a grindcore band as power violence isn't a genre I've spent much time listening to, so I couldn't write music in that vein.
Benny Matthews (KNIFED Vocalist) joined around 2021 and we decided that staying as a 3-piece would be ideal (the less band members the better we reckon). I'm the only guitarist in the band so I split my guitar signal into TWO guitar amps AND a bass-amp to thicken the sound! Thanks to Josh Hughes (Graves/Bridge Burner guitarist) for the "guitar-amp and bass amp" setup suggestion.
KNIFED played its first show actually at LAST PLACE (Hamilton) in April 2022. We've gone on to play around the country which was nice as it allows us to get out of Auckland for the weekend! We played Wastefest 2022 and Napier Death Metal Festival 2022. We also did some South Island shows with our mates in STRESS GHETTO back in mid-November 2022.
I see KNIFED just dropped the Knifed 7-Inch. Can you tell us a bit about that? How did the Knifed EP release shows go and what are some future goals for the band?
We actually recorded (what I thought was) a demo-type recording with Ciara "Cozy" Bernstein (recording and mixing) at the VAULT back in April-June of 2022 and it ended up turning into a 7-inch release. It was mastered by Will (U.S.A. engineer) at Killingsworth Mastering and the Artwork was actually done by our mate Alexander Brown who's an amazing visual artist and the guitarist & vocalist in DISTANT FEAR! The 7-inch was released back in November 2022 by both "Hairy Palm" (Benny's label) and "Wrought Material" (Alex Brown's label) as a co-release. We did a KNIFED 7-inch Release show in Wellington back in Dec 2022 (with Fog, Putrid Future, Forced Starvation, Unsanitary Napkin) and we just did the Auckland 7-Inch release show in back in January 2023 with Parasitic Infestation, Pulvinar and Auckland Death/Grind legends Malevolence. Both shows were very well attended and people seemed to enjoy our brand of fast-as-fvck grindcore!
Goals for the band? We're just aiming to have a great time jamming and practicing KNIFED music and playing shows in Auckland and around the rest of the country. I'm personally keen to try and write more intense and adventurous grindcore music and perform it better every time we step on stage (tighter and faster!).
You do a lot for NZ music in regards to documenting shows. What advice would you have for people wanting to do more for the scene and what would you like to see in regards to others doing things to help the culture?
If people want to do more for the scene, then people simply need to go out and attend more shows. Maybe buy a shirt/merchandise and support the bands that way financially. Bands need people and people need bands. Buy a drink or purchase some food at the bar so that the bar/venue makes some money so they can keep the doors open. When venues disappear for lack of business, then bands and punters start running out of places to perform and see other bands. I ALWAYS encourage people in the scene to get together, start more bands, and get active playing shows in their scene. If you don't know how to play an instrument then start learning!
Top 5 bands and/or albums that influenced you the most over the years (or you simply enjoy over the years and keep coming back to)?
Ah man! This is such a hard question! I'm going to have to do a genre-split sorry!
Metal:
1) Pantera - Far Beyond Driven
2) Sepultura - Arise
3) Machine Head - Burn My Eyes
4) Fear Factory - Demanufacture
5) Acid Bath - "When the Kite Strings Pop" & "Paegan Terrorism Tactics" (Tied because I couldn't choose one album over the other).
Punk Rock/Hardcore Punk (I'll give you 10 that are in no order of importance as they're ALL important to me):
- Bad Religion - The Empire Strikes First (Brooks Wackerman’s work in both Bad Religion and Suicidal Tendencies is always inspiring to me!).
- Turbonegro - Darkness Forever (BEST live Punk Rock album ever! Hank Von Helvete - R.I.P. - is one of the best frontmen ever in Punk Rock)
- NOFX - Pump Up the Valium (My introduction to NOFX. There are better albums, but this has a special place in my heart).
- Pennywise - "Straight Ahead" (Just right up crushing and fast melodic Punk Rock. Fletcher's guitar tones and Byron's intense/fast-as-fvck
drumming still inspires me today).
- Suicidal Tendencies - "Still Cyco After All These Years" & "Freedumb" (BOTH albums I keep coming back to).
- The Dillinger Escape Plan - Calculating Infinity (I didn't understand it first but when I got into them, I realised how awesome they were!).
- Coliseum - No Salvation (My "Hardcore Punk" drumming bible. Chris Maggio is my hardcore-punk drumming god!)
- Converge - All We Love We Leave Behind
- Poison Idea - "Pig's Last Stand."
NZ Punk-Rock/Hardcore Punk Bands:
- Shortlived - "Shortlived" Demo = Simply one of the best and most intense bands to come out of NZ. Dan Fraser is my favourite NZ Punk-Rock/Hardcore Punk Drummers (He's playing drums in FORCED STARVATION. He also sings and plays guitar in "POP OD" atm).
Anytime Dan and Sam Thurston play in the same band then musical-gold usually happens!!!
- Brubeck - “The Myoclonic Twitch."
- Sommerset - "Fast Cars Slow Guitars"
- Evil Priest - I, II, III
Any words or advice for the up-and-coming bands in NZ?
Have fun playing music with people who want to play the same music as you and with people whose company you enjoy. Maybe start a band fund (if the band is somewhat semi-serious) and hopefully get everyone to contribute $5-$10 into it per week and let it build.
You then use this money to pay for recordings and get physical products like vinyl/cassette/shirts/merchandise printed. It's nice to not have to stump up loads of money in one big go from each band member. If you sell CDs/shirts/vinyl/cassette/merchandise then re-invest the money back into the band fund. Practice regularly if you can to keep the band/music tight. If you can manage two-rehearsals a week you will (hopefully) see a higher-quality of performance from your band.
One of most important life lessons I learnt from the Punk/Hardcore Scene is the DIY mentality! If you can't get into a band for whatever reason then go to shows, find like-minded people into the same music and start a band. If your band isn't getting asked to play any shows then go book your own shows and invite bands to play. I learnt that YOU (if you have the drive and motivation) can make things happen in life, BUT you have to be prepared to put in the effort and (potentially) go through heaps of bullshit to achieve anything in music and therefore in life. Stop waiting for things to happen in your life and just make it happen by putting in the effort!
Would you like to give some final shout outs to end the interview?
I want to give a BIG SHOUT OUT to anyone that simply participates in New Zealand underground music (musicians, visual artists, sound techs, and music fans). A big SHOUT OUT to NZHCPP for doing their part in documenting and preserving NZHC for future generations to check out!
Peace!
Andy Young (Jan 29th 2023)